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    I just weighed between getting an R3A and an M3. They're pretty much the same price, if you get a user M3 on eBay (but you could end up having to pay for a CLA as well). After fiddling with an R3A, I went with the M3. The main reason was that the shutter of the Bessa is louder and shakes the camera. I already have a Bessa T, so this time I was looking for a really smooth shutter. It had to be the Leica. I bought one from a sophisticated seller than vouched for the accuracy of the shutter and viewfinder.

    If you use glasses, the M3 finder, which has slightly less magnification, gives a better view of the 50mm frameline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laz127
    Okay okay, I'll confess, I have a less that secret desire for a Leica lens.
    I have one - I bought it just to see what all the fuzz was about. And I still don't know.

    All right, I admit it was the cheapest one of all: a 135mm Hektor. It's still stuck on my FED-2 camera, I have to push back the rangefinder coupling from the inside to get it off. As soon as I've finished that roll of film. And then I'll put the collapsible Elmar copy back on, and use the 21mm VC on the Bessa-L. An the Hektor goes in the cabinet.
    -- Ole Tjugen, Luddite Elitist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    I have one - I bought it just to see what all the fuzz was about. And I still don't know.

    All right, I admit it was the cheapest one of all: a 135mm Hektor.
    Ole,

    I find that the 135 Hektor doesn't have the contrasty 'snap' of the later Leica lenses, but it's plenty sharp. My 1954 version has wonderfully smooth bokeh, and at 5 feet can easily resolve the finest of hairs on my 13 year old son's face across the frame, even wide open (if you can call f:4.5 wide).

    Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    I have one - I bought it just to see what all the fuzz was about. And I still don't know.
    All right, I admit it was the cheapest one of all: a 135mm Hektor..... the Hektor goes in the cabinet.
    Maybe you should try selling it to Haris

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    Soviet Leica copies aren't all bad either...

    FED-2 with "Elmarski" 50mm f:3.5, f:3.5, 1/10s
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    Thing is: I want one best Leica lens I can afford. That would be current Summicron 50mm, of course secondhand. If I need to go with compromise, then it would be better to go with new Voiglaender lens. So, only one, but Leica. Other lenses probably will be Voigtlaender. There is no point to go to older and cheaper Leica lenses because new Voigtlaenders are almost same priced and same or even better quality than old Leica lenses. Atleast that is what I could hear and read.

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    The other advantages of the Summicron over the Voigtlander 50mm Nokton lens is that it's a lot smaller and lighter, and you can focus at 0.7m instead of 1m.

    As for picture quality, I'm still trying to find a big difference between the two lenses....

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    My only "modern" Leica-compatible lens is the Voigtländer 21mm f4 Color-Skopar I use on the Bessa-L. If the other CV lenses are anywhere near as good as this one, they're very good indeed!
    -- Ole Tjugen, Luddite Elitist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    My only "modern" Leica-compatible lens is the Voigtländer 21mm f4 Color-Skopar I use on the Bessa-L. If the other CV lenses are anywhere near as good as this one, they're very good indeed!
    I too have the Voigtländer 21mm f4 Color-Skopar on my R2 and it is spectacular. With all the variables that go into the final product I just don't get the Lecia "thing" Present APUGers excepted, I think there is quite a bit of status seeking going on out there.

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    If you buy one of the Bessas, you should also keep in mind one major difference between the R3A and the R2 - the R3A has a battery-dependent electronic shutter, compared to the mechanical shutter of the R2 where the battery only powers the meter. This matters more to some people than others, so I highlight it only for awareness sake.

    With regard to buying an eBay M3 - I started out similarly with a beat-up user M3 which I got CLA'd before using - it worked great, but I really missed the convenience of having a built-in light meter, and the film loading on the M3 is a bit more of a hassle than on the later models. If you are really intent on having a Leica body, try to pick up a cheap M6 'Classic' (pre-TTL) body instead. They are going for great prices on eBay right now, only slightly more than the cost of a good user M3 + CLA, because so many photographers are selling them to upgrade to MPs & M7s. The M6 is a great camera and preferable to the M3 for users because of the meter and faster film loading/rewind.

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