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    Mamiya 7II, just for the size of the negative and the quality of the lenses.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    Mamiya 7II... the quality of the lenses.
    Based on what comparison? Not that the lenses might not be good, but the lenses on the Bronica are terrific. On what do you base this comparative assertion?

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    I'd take the Mamiya for the 43,65, 150 lens combination and in spite of the uninspiring 6x7 frame ratio.

    I would imagine that the Bronica's lenses are excellent. I have shot the Mamiya's and know them to be. I don't shoot targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjorke
    Based on what comparison? Not that the lenses might not be good, but the lenses on the Bronica are terrific. On what do you base this comparative assertion?
    And where I`m doing a direct comparison?
    I just said I will choose the Mamiya by the reasons stated previously and not in comparison with Bronica or whatever brand of camera.
    I base my choice on results obtained by friends owning a few of them.
    But I can tell you more, I wouldn`t trade my Swedish cube and German glass for any of those.

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    my two cents worth of confusion and 'I own it so its the best' :

    thought about buying an RZ or RB ? - or anything with a removable/rotating back system ? I own an RZ with two 6x7 backs and a 645 back also, so I have both fomats in the one cam ... heavier yes, but just take one lens and let the format dictate the relative diagonal angle of view, so in another way of thinking you have two lenses. (not taking the grain or aspect ratios into account)

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    I am in the middle of printing a 40 print 16x20 fibre show right now , camera- Mamiya7, negatives are beautiful , metering system has made my life in the darkroom a pleasant transition negative to negative. the larger size neg is worth it as others have pointed out.
    I have always liked this camera and think it is one of the best out there. highly recommend the mamiya range finder, but then again I like all rangefinders .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    And where I`m doing a direct comparison?
    That was the question. Perhaps you didn't look at the name of the thread?

    Increase of area

    35mm->645 : 864 mm^2 -> 2700 mm^2 or 212.5%
    645->6x7 : 2700 mm^2 -> 4200 mm ^2 or 55.6%

    is 55% worth twice the money? anyone's guess, if it's not their money

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    Neg size v price is one aspect. I would rather have the lens choices over the lower price. The Bronica doesn't have an equivalent to the 43mm does it?

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    It could be worth twice the money for some photographers. The mamiya also has a near accessory for doing panoramics on 35mm.
    Claire (Ms Anne Thrope is in the darkroom)

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    These are the things I would consider. In random order.
    Number of lenses available ? Bronica 2 or 3. Mamiya ?
    Is your favorite among them ?
    Neg area
    Price
    Handling
    The fact that the orientation in the Bronica gives Portrait format when held normally might be a pro or a con depending on your demands.

    If I had the money I would choose the Mamiya because of the wideangles available
    (I would prefer a 6 and the 50mm)
    I would like the bigger neg (if I had the money)
    I think I prefer the orientation of the neg.

    But if you don't have the money you don't really have a choice, do you ?
    Søren

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