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    Another Leica IIIF!

    Hello everybody! I am a new member of APUG and this is my very first post!

    Having not used my IIIF for many years, I have just sent it away for a complete overhaul. I bought this camera in 1967 when I was 15 years old but I haven't used it now for at least 20 years. To ensure I can recapture as far as possible, the authentic 1950's style of black and white photography, I have also ordered some Efke/Adox R100 and Neofin Blue from Retro Photographic here in the UK.

    My question is, can anybody suggest a starting point for film speed and development time for this combination? I will be shooting mainly with my collapsible 50mm Summicron but also with 35mm Summaron, 90mm Elmar and 135mm Hektor. Initially I'll be using a modern diffuser enlarger, but eventually I will restore an old condenser enlarger from the same period to complete my 'retro experiment'!

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    This combination has times listed here:

    http://jandcphoto.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=2

    Lee

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    Hey Bill, I think I know you...

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    There is also the Massive Development Chart. Doesn't cover every combination, and sometimes you just have to make your best guess.

    http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html

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    Hey Bill

    Great stuff... don't throw out that diffusion head, that's authentic 50s gear !

    The hot setup in those brave days was a focomat or valoy, and while they are condensor heads, the condensor sits on top of the neg, bringing the 'lightsource' into contact with the neg, resulting in a semi diffusion. Most of the guys I knew whe were working then either left it alone, or added a little drawing vellum between the anti newton disc and the condensor, making it a diffusion head.... same effect from a durst 606, or quite a few great enlargers from those thrilling days !

    You can push the 100 film to 400 if you want to do the early '50s journalism thing.... it took a long time for tri x to catch on !

    have fun


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    Quote Originally Posted by df cardwell
    You can push the 100 film to 400 if you want to do the early '50s journalism thing.... it took a long time for tri x to catch on !
    How many minutes in D76? (or did they use Edwal 12?)

    All help much appreciated,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan Young
    How many minutes in D76? (or did they use Edwal 12?)

    All help much appreciated,

    Lachlan

    here's the goods:

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...4018/f4018.pdf

    for 'real time data', check out a copy of The Leica Manual, circa 1956... for current films, though, rely on the current kodak info.... it'll work for FP4+ too.

    don
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkr
    Hey Bill, I think I know you...
    Nevermind, the other "Bill" is Blank, not Banks. Thought you were a guy from another forum...

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    Ah these modern cameras, I'm still getting good mileage from a IIIa. For an even more antique Leica approach, try using the 50mm camera lens on the enlarger. It's no coincidence that they both use the same thread.

    David.

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    Thanks, everybody. I picked up the camera today and I'm ready to go!



 

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