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    Quote Originally Posted by elekm View Post
    The Retina IIa rarely sells for less than $50, especially if it's been overhauled.
    I disagree with this. I still think the Retina IIa applies as a suggestion in this case.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/KODAK-RETINA-IIa...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/kodak-retina-IIa...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kodak-Re...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-Retina-IIa...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-Retina-IIa...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-KODAK-RE...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEAR-MINT-KODAK-...d=p3286.c0.m14 ("near mint" with case for $56)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/FOLDING-KODAK-RE...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-KODAK-RE...d=p3286.c0.m14 ("with Extras" for $51)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-RETINA-IIa...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-KODAK-RETIN...d=p3286.c0.m14
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kodak-Re...d=p3286.c0.m14

    These were all in the $50 area, or less in a few cases. This only includes sales in the past amount of time that EBay will let you search. (I don't know how far back they look.) In the same time period, five Retina IIas went for over $50 (one of which was a Rodenstock glass model that went for beaucoup bux).

    I also listed two more above that went for over $50, as they are close enough to $50 to warrant listing, IMO, given the "near mint" claim and the "Extras".

    This search of completed EBay auctions does not include the models of Retina other than the IIa, of which there are several. Additionally, they are very common (I should change that to often very common, as there is always someone trying to sell tin as gold) and very cheap at estate sales, swap meets, camera shows, etc. in the $5 to $25 range. I don't think a very high premium would be paid for overhauled models of most cameras, let alone relatively cheap cameras. I certainly would not pay more for a camera that had "just been serviced". I do not agree that the cameras rarely sell for under $50. In fact, evidence would support that they sell for under $50 more often than they sell for over $50.
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    2F/2F:

    I'm looking for a Retina IIa.

    You are in charge .

    Matt

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    It takes quite a bit more in research than that before I go out and buy a camera nowadays (I made the wrong choice a while ago and got a camera that should not be talked about on this forum and now I regret it). Now I try to research as well as possible before I buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeykoder View Post
    It takes quite a bit more in research than that before I go out and buy a camera nowadays (I made the wrong choice a while ago and got a camera that should not be talked about on this forum and now I regret it). Now I try to research as well as possible before I buy.
    Hi,

    I am not trying to say that what I posted is in-depth research, but simply a glimpse of pricing that qualifies these cameras for consideration as an option, along with many other fine cameras.

    Like with anything, patience pays off, and you will score better by waiting for a good opportunity. It is just like life for something to turn up at a yard sale for $5 the week after you buy one on EBay for $50...

    I work as the photographer (and often a laborer) for an estate sales company, and am always keeping my eyes open, Matt. Next time I find one for cheap or free, you can have it. I don't need three or even two! Estate sales in nice neighborhoods where it is the estate of someone who lived in the '40s through the '60s are always good bets. (Remember that these were not cheap cameras in their day.) That is where I got my two free ones (and an Argus C3 with box and flash), my Sekonic meter, my Spotmatic and four sweet lenses, a Rolleicord, etc. Some were free, as they were not liquidated at the sales and were going to be donated, but most of the time I just get a nice employee discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeykoder View Post
    Are there any other types of rangefinder I should be looking at?
    *****Good Canonet's are getting harder to find. Not nearly as compact, but also with a zinger of a sharp lens is the Konica Auto S-2. Bright, parallax correcting RF; auto exposure control with complete manual override.
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    My post was more of a reply to Matt's post than yours. Some of these cameras are much harder to research as they don't come available all that often so when you see them it is much harder to come up with a reasonable price.

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    Geez, I wanna know the title of the book...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2F/2F View Post
    I work as the photographer (and often a laborer) for an estate sales company, and am always keeping my eyes open, Matt. Next time I find one for cheap or free, you can have it.
    2F/2F:

    Thanks for thinking of me .

    Matt

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    I bought my Canonet after I did the research and ebay/KEH price check. I went into a little camera repair shop (icamera) around the corner from where I work in Downtown Oakland, asked if he had a Canon GIII. He had five, he showed me his best two. The camera I bought was EX++, with the seals re-done (in-house), a working battery, case/strap, and a 100-day warranty. I did not pay low-ball ebay or hi-ball KEH, but something quite reasonable, with no S/H, buyer/seller hassles.

    icamera also had a few Retinas but I didn't want to mess with the lens cover apparatus while negotiating a bicycle.

    Anyway YMMV, happy GAS!

    Terry

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    The Retina IIa can be a little finicky at age 50. All three of mine are awaiting repair. I would go with one of the Japanes RFs or maybe something Soviet. The Kiev 4a can be very good if your hands are big enough to handle the "Contax grip". Also worth looking at are the Fed 2,3, and 4 and the Zorki 4 and 6. One of the lesser known Japanese models that usually goes for a song is the Petri 1.9. The lens is decent and the rangefinder, viewfinder, and overall ergonomics are superb.

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