Get a couple of rolls of Ilford SFX or Rolli Superpan.
Put an IR filter on your lens (Wraten 89b, or any other 720nm filter) and go shooting
you'll fall in love
Mama took my APX away.....
I've used Leicas for much photography since 1953. They feel more user friendly when one doesn't need really close focusing or long lenses. Focusing seems faster and more precise than SLRs. The M series are even better than the screw mount Leicas and their many imitators.
Originally Posted by Polybun
Last year ('06 / '07) I shot my son's and daughter's kid-league soccer games with both my Digital SLR's (D1H / D2H) and with a couple of my rangefinders (M3, M5, CLE). I also shot many of the league team shots, helping out the independant photogapher who had contracted with the league.
The RF's I used didn't have leaf shutters, but performed admirably. I do own a few Minolta 7sII's, and when the need arises, I happily snatch one of them for that purpose.
I found that for formal group shots the DLSRs gave me better shots, BUT I would suggest that most of that had to do with lighting, not cameras or lenses.
For action shots - of kids at least - the RF's did just as well as the DSLRs. I may have taken more photos with digital, but the keepers between film and digital were about the same. And of course the percentage of keepers was astronomically higher among the film (RF in this case) shots.
I shot most of the images with a Leica 90mm, f/4.
Indoors I used a Minolta 360PX flash with the CLE set either on A or TTL flash mode.
Perhaps the best images of all came from my trusty M3 and a 30 year old lens and some Kodak slide film. Shot the way my grandfather used to shoot them- and just as good.
I guess I post all this to say that we can take just as good a photo in a sports environment as some mom or dad on the side of the field shooting their newest DSLR. Probably better, in most cases.
I've been photographing since the 1960's, starting with SLRs for the most part. I then got a Nikon RF, took it to Africa in the 70's, had it stolen, and didn't get back to RFs until about 8 years ago.
I think there are two main differences, at least to my mind. When I look through an SLR, my mind is caught in the act of looking at the overall picture, as if I am looking at the picture on a wall and I'm judging how it looks as a composition. With the RF, I seem to be less concerned about framing than about the moment of pressing the shutter release and the instant that I'm capturing. I react to the image in the RF viewfinder differently.
One thing that drove me -- as if driving were necessary -- to RFs was a family event I attended several years ago with my Contax SLRs and several zoom and primes. It was an indoor wedding event at night, and I'll be damned if I could focus a wide angle image at all. I dearly regretted not having an RF that facilitated focussing, especially of wide angle lenses, and especially in the ambient darkness.
So, I usually walk around with an RF. But if I need to do close-ups or telephoto shots, it's an SLR all the way. Leica NOOKY attachments are fun, but nothing beats looking through the lens in certain situations.
FYI, I've got Leica M and LTM, Nikon, Contax, Minolta CLE and Kiev RF cameras. Each is a bit different and each has its own attributes. As does the leaf-shutter Konica IIIa, with its great lens and flash sync.
I dunno. I've been using RFs for over a year now. Last week I had to shoot my school's culture festival with an SLR. Over the weekend it inspired me to bring out my F80
Those who know, shoot film
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Took me close to 18 months to 'fall in love' with the rangefinder method of photography. I inherited my grandfather Minolta Hi-Matic E many years ago and loved. So about 2 years I bought a Bessa outfit and hated it. Hated the whole rangefinder method of focusing, shooting , everything. Threatened to sell my Bessa so many times, but just could not bother. About 3 months determined to make shelf space, I went to sell the Bessa, found it had almost a full roll of film in it. Took it out to waste the roll on the street... I now own 2 Bessa's and a Leica M5 and have spent a small fortune on LTM and M mount lens in the past few months.
RF's, SLR's, TLR's.... it's all good. I started a billion years ago on a rangefinder-less model of Kodak Retina and learned to guess focus. The squinty little viewfinder was pretty useless for framing. Any system that shows an accurate frame and doesn't make me guess focus is good by me!
RF, SRL, MF are just tools. You just need to pick the right tool for the subject you are shooting.
"There's more to the picture
Than meets the eye." - Neil Young
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Good morning, Bill;
The choice of camera may depend on what you want to do. My range finder cameras allow me to be much more discreet; the quiet "snick" of the in-the-lens leaf shutter is much less noticeable than the "clank-vzsssst-flock" of some of my early SLR. Then there is also the point about being able to use fill-in flash with an electronic or strobe flash unit at any shutter speed.
If I am using a telephoto lens, or a very wide lens, or a bellows, or I need to know is going to go onto the film, then the SLR really shines. Also, I have never left the lens cap on with an SLR.
Ralph Javins, Latte Land, Washington
When they ask you; "How many Mega Pixels you got in your camera?"
just tell them; "I use activated silver bromide crystals tor my image storage media."
There are lots of little things that make you fall in love..
My M6 was so much less intrusive, even if people didn't care I had a camera I did, the M6 made me stop caring. Then there's the build quality.. nuff said. The freedom you get in the viewfinder was refreshing. I find it easier to imagine out of depth areas than than imagine sharp areas on a shallow SLR viewfinder. On to of that the extra room around the edges made it easier to see what I was missing just outside the frame.. rather than having to paint the scene with the SLR to see everything. The lack of mirror slap is also a huge boon and of course the Lecia glass. I didn't realise all this at first but I still fell in love the day I took it home.
Some relationships take longer to foster.. apparently women are good at this kind of advice.. I suggest you seek one out or burn though some more film.
At the end of the day if it doesn't work out that's okay too.. well.. providing you survive a road surface strength tarring!