I have a friend who comes from a family who doesn't have a tv, radio, cd player, etc... or a computer for the last few years until recently. They only got one because his dad needed to start working from home, and his little brother needed it for schoolwork(even though he was home schooled).
My friend is my age, 22, but he's probably more "normal" than most people my age. He's WAY more level headed than most, more rational, and doesn't get into emotional sh!+ fits like so many people do these days, over the smallest things.
he uses computers for school(college), but only for that. he still doesn't have a cell phone though, I think its great!
I respectfully disagree
Iphones in general are not like Leicas. Can't you imagine a 35mm camera where all film has to be approved by Leica? If a Leica is like an Iphone, you can't photograph naked people with it. The only similarity between a Leica and an Iphone is that they're both expensive. However, a Leica won't be obsolete in 5 years. I'm not anti-Iphone. I use one and I think they're great. It is useful in analog photography. There's the Dev Chart app that I use for souping film which I love using.
Originally Posted by Karl K
One of my wife's colleagues just told her a story of her daughter and friends congregating on their front lawn in a circle on a recent afternoon. When she came out of the house to check up on them, and see what they were up to, she was informed that the girls had been "texting" each other all afternoon.
Originally Posted by w9cae
This is a world our kids are being exposed to daily; they can't perform simple communications, anymore. Our older daughter (5th grade) keeps asking for a cell phone (her friends tease her for not having one), and we keep pushing back. Sorry, we know the vast majority of kids already at that age are using them for excessive texting purposes, but we're not falling into that peer and marketing pressure. Her job at this age, is to read (for which she has a passion), penmanship, and learning and practicing decent human interpersonal skills.
It's the same thing I get from acquaintances, when I use my film camera, as opposed to their latest digital toys (cheap ones, at that). Wait till the LF camera comes "into the picture"...
I don't have one either. I can't see the point.
Originally Posted by DanielStone
"People who say things won't work are a dime a dozen. People who figure out how to make things work are worth a fortune" - Dave Rat.
Sorry Andrew, but penmanship is already extinct. Penmanship is basically a manual graphic arts task, not a commonly used social/business skill. Once kids get old enough to have to most of their writing on a computer, the handwriting suffers.
I agree interpersonal skills are at risk due to the combination of texting and everyone walking around like zombies with white cords coming from their ears. Many people stick the earbuds in purposely so they won't have to talk or listen to people. Constant texting seems to weaken the understanding and ability to differentiate between what's urgent and what's important. Texting can also be a permanent distriction that masks the ability to understand the difference between single and multitasking.
I use texting at work to relay numbers and codes to people in the field; it's more accurate than repeating things 3 times over a bad cell phone voice connection. I receive texts when things hit the fan, by way of our monitoring system. It's not recreational for me.
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Must just be the way we do things today, comparing a cell phone to a camera. The expectation will be, of course, that the iPhone will have the quality and perhaps the longevity of the Leica.
Can you imagine Steve Jobs making a device with the usability and integrity of a Leica iiif or a M2? Can you imagine him (or anyone, for that matter) building something we would still like to use in 50+ years?
If a iPhone is still functional after five years it's viability and desirability will have disappeared; Recycle bin fodder, like my 3 year old Motorola cell phone.
Us humans get so excited about new sparkly things we like to own them whether we can use them or not.
The leica iiif lost it's sparkle after a while that's why they made others and people upgraded, I think job is just making the point that they spend money and time on quality materials which Is very true, I have macs that are still going after 10 years in fact only one apple product has failed on me and that's an iPhone.
Why do so many people hate apple? Normally it's from the people that don't use their stuff either I really don't get it. I sort of think you don't like it don't buy it.
I also only have a cheep 10 year old phone to get me by as I don't need anything else, but the iPhone is still by far a leader in the smartphone market. Even if like most big stores they control what they want to sell you.
Apple = cult
Leica = cult
cult = cult
therefore, Apple = Leica