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    38 Frames Per Roll? How about 39?

    With my M7, I finally figured out a way to squeeze 38 out of a roll of Tri-X, with the first frame at 00, the next at 0, and the last at 36. Is there a way to squeeze another one at the end to make it to 37, and thus, 39 total frames? Just curious. Thanks!

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    Am I the only person who prefers shorter rolls? (from both a developing and shooting perspective, I find it annoying to deal with 36 frame rolls).

    In any case, the answer is above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degruyl View Post
    Am I the only person who prefers shorter rolls? (from both a developing and shooting perspective, I find it annoying to deal with 36 frame rolls).
    The very first thing that my instructor said when I took a darkroom workshop was to always finish a roll at 35... which, of course, I don't do, but it is a pain dealing with the frames that don't fit on an 8x10 contact sheet. I usually end up with two extra frames on a roll, so I start building an odds and ends page with the leftovers. The thing is, those are often interesting shots that I just manage to catch at the end of a roll, which I might miss if I have to change film, or even worse, run out of film altogether.

    One other thing to consider is having to cut your negative strips with such a small gap between frames. My scissors skills are not nearly as steady as my shooting.

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    Why not buy a Nikon or Olympus and shoot with a 250 exposure back. Shoot all day, shoot a little longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralnphot View Post
    Why not buy a Nikon or Olympus and shoot with a 250 exposure back. Shoot all day, shoot a little longer.
    Now, that would be some contact sheet!
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    I used to get 39.5* frames out of a Konica Auto S3 because of the very short length between the roll and the take up spool. But why stop at frame 36? Why not also shoot frame 'E'?

    * Half of frame 'X' plus '00', '0' and 'E' at the other end.
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    "The very first thing that my instructor said when I took a darkroom workshop was to always finish a roll at 35... "

    Good Morning,

    Toffle is right, and, as others have indicated, the primary problem with extra frames lies in the contacting--unless, by great good fortune, an obviously worthless shot or two happen to lie at exactly the point where it/they can be clipped out and discarded as the roll is cut into separate strips.

    Something no one has mentioned so far: With slide film, squeezing out an extra frame or two can be considered a bonus.

    Konical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffle View Post
    but it is a pain dealing with the frames that don't fit on an 8x10 contact sheet.
    Just use the proper size for contact sheets - 24x30cm; 7 lines with 6 frames no problem ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralnphot View Post
    Why not buy a Nikon or Olympus and shoot with a 250 exposure back. Shoot all day, shoot a little longer.
    Funny - don't think I haven't thought about it! I have an F3HP and could get one of these backs, but they are so freakin' hideous to look at. I usually don't care at all about what other people think while I'm out shooting, but it might be hard not to be self-conscious with with one of these attached to my face.

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