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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    When I shoot outdoors, at night with only street lights to aid me, or indoors with only indoor lighting, I use 3200 film shot usually around 6400 with an f/1.4 lens wide open unless someone is close to a light source.
    Thomas, do you have any examples shot this way? You think maybe I should go for the f/2 Biogon rather than the f/2.8 if I intend it to be my only lens?

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    The 35mm Summicron Asph. is of course the cats meow but as has been previously stated don't discount the Summaron (2.8 or even 3.5) under the right conditions it has pretty much the Summicron look and is a lot cheaper to buy.

    Dominik

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    I just purchased a used Carl Zeiss 35/2 Biogon ZM T*. I figure the extra stop of speed could be beneficial if it's my only lens. I've heard reports of the f/2 being slightly soft wide open, but to me getting the shot and it being a little soft is better than not being able to get the shot at all.

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    Now you have to go make pictures.
    Put all the opinions out of your mind. You have an excellent lens and don't need to be curious about other opinions.
    Heavily sedated for your protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian steinberger View Post
    I just purchased a used Carl Zeiss 35/2 Biogon ZM T*. I figure the extra stop of speed could be beneficial if it's my only lens. I've heard reports of the f/2 being slightly soft wide open, but to me getting the shot and it being a little soft is better than not being able to get the shot at all.
    I think you're gonna be happy that you didn't compromise on lens speed. That's the kind of thing that can nag at you later (especially with a Leica). You may get the Summicron urge somewhere down the line, but I doubt it will be for softness wide open. There should be far more than adequate sharpness at f2 for the types of pictures a person will usually shoot at that aperture.

    Enjoy the lens and don't fret the details.

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    Thanks so much guys. I'm excited! I should have the camera and lens next week. I was just metering some scenes around the house, one of my girlfriend in the living room with one lamp on, not very bright. Reading with simply the reflected light from the lamp onto her I got 1/30 at f/2 at ISO 1600. Perfect! Hopefully that extra stop will be worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian steinberger View Post
    Thanks so much guys. I'm excited! I should have the camera and lens next week. I was just metering some scenes around the house, one of my girlfriend in the living room with one lamp on, not very bright. Reading with simply the reflected light from the lamp onto her I got 1/30 at f/2 at ISO 1600. Perfect! Hopefully that extra stop will be worth it!
    Congrats Brian!

    I'm pretty sure you'll like the lens. My only quibble with it is the size, but it's worth it for the speed I think.

    I couldn't decide between the 2.8 and 2.0 Biogons so I purchased both and shot with them for a while. I decided to keep the 2.0, but that 2.8C is a fine and small lens. The 2.0 does intrude into the 35mm framelines on the Ikon, but I actually had to go and check to be sure; it's quite minor.

    Anyway I wanted to share a few comparison shots for you, but you already went and bought one. :-) Perhaps someone else will find them of interest. These images are bigger than I remember so sorry for the size. I shot these last year as I was deciding between lenses. Both lenses performed well for casual photography but I wanted to see if a noticeable difference would emerge if I (for once) used a tripod and took identical photos. The first two are at f2.8 and the last two are with the Biogon 2.0 exposed at f5.6.







    I scanned them on a Nikon Coolscan - this one is a full size crop of the one above.


    Enjoy your new lens!

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    I think you made the right choice Brian. If I am not mistaken, the f/2 Biogon has less distortion than the f/2.8. It really is a great lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawarden View Post
    Congrats Brian!

    I'm pretty sure you'll like the lens. My only quibble with it is the size, but it's worth it for the speed I think.

    I couldn't decide between the 2.8 and 2.0 Biogons so I purchased both and shot with them for a while. I decided to keep the 2.0, but that 2.8C is a fine and small lens. The 2.0 does intrude into the 35mm framelines on the Ikon, but I actually had to go and check to be sure; it's quite minor.

    Anyway I wanted to share a few comparison shots for you, but you already went and bought one. :-) Perhaps someone else will find them of interest. These images are bigger than I remember so sorry for the size. I shot these last year as I was deciding between lenses. Both lenses performed well for casual photography but I wanted to see if a noticeable difference would emerge if I (for once) used a tripod and took identical photos. The first two are at f2.8 and the last two are with the Biogon 2.0 exposed at f5.6.
    Thanks for the examples! so in your findings of using both lenses did you see a difference?

    Also, I'm excited at the sharpness with the Coolscan. I too have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian steinberger View Post
    Thanks for the examples! so in your findings of using both lenses did you see a difference?
    Not really, at least as far as sharpness and contrast are concerned. I'm not a pixel peeper so doing the tripod shots was painfully boring for me, but I'm glad I did them. As M. Lointain says the distortion on the 2.0 is smaller which I like.

    One last shot, showing the 2.8 attached to the camera and the 2.0 next to it. Not a small lens (it's bigger than my 50mm 1.5 Sonnar) but I quickly got used to the size. The filter and caps make the 2.0 look bigger in this image than it is.


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