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    Zorki 4 changed the speed before winding now it's stuck

    I know, I know, you aren't supposed to change the speeds first but I was in a fit of photographic ecstasy and didn't realize I had changed speeds first until after the shutter jammed. Now I press the button and it won't fire. I've tried moving the shutter speed control around. I'm getting ready to tear the top off but I've not found anything online that describes what I'm looking for in the way of a jam. I read someplace that a cam will go over another part and stick but I can't find a description of what I should be looking for. I've torn apart a lot of rangefinders in the past but never anything in the FSU or Leica vein.

    Any advice is appreciated!

    Jeremiah
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=44840
    The last post on this thread may help
    Good luck!

    Cheers,

    Dave

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    Thanks for the link but I've already tried that. I'm afraid that there is no option but surgery at this point and I need to know what parts I'm looking for that are bound up. I'm thinking of just pulling the slow speeds since I will probably never use them anyway.
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    That's to bad, I assume you know then about the zorki 4K CLA sticky on that forum? Maybe that can solve the problem? well here's hoping the zorki get fixed soon.

    Cheers,

    Dave

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    I read through the CLA but I can't find anywhere that says what the issues actually are when you set the speed before winding! I've read tons of info and everything just says it's bad because you wind up with the shutter speed set incorrectly and sometimes it jams but I've not found a single thing that says what parts jam. I guess I'll just open it up and start poking...
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    Ok, I've stripped it down, I removed the slow speed mechanism. I've pulled of the timer mechanism. (That probably won't go back on) I've pulled basically everything you can apart on this. The shutter is still cocked but nothing I do can get it to trip. What the hell should I be looking for next?! Almost all the references I've seen show the low speed as being the issue. I don't see what can be holding it back now!! This is driving me nuts! I'm ready to say that the FSU camera design is just crap and toss this one in the lake or sell it on ebay for parts.
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    You could try contacting Yuri Boguslavsky, the proprietor of Fedka.com, and see if he has any insight into the problem - or perhaps he could repair it for you?
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    "Embrace the negative with absolution, your final positive reward." --IQ, "The Province," Frequency

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    I'm not going to waste any more money on this camera by sending it to someone else. I've rebuilt several cameras now and I've never had this kind of problem before. Part of the problem is lack of documentation. I can go online and get a repair manual for just about every other camera but I can't find any really good references other than basics. I know that the issue isn't in the low speeds. I'm trying to get the shutter completely out of the camera now, I figure that if I just reset everything to zero maybe I can get it to work but I can't figure out how to get the last screw out to completely remove the shutter housing from the top.
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    ok, next question, I thought I knew the answer but now I'm getting mixed up and tired but I'll ask anyway, which side should the shutter material be rolled on when the shutter is cocked? Right now mine has all the material rolled onto the drum and only the tab ends on teh two rollers to the left.
    looking for the battery cover for a early model Canonet QL 17, the round screw in kind.

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    This may be helpful...


    Issak S. Maizenberg
    "All you need to know about the design and repair of Russian cameras"
    cccp.alien-planet.net/maizenberg-cameras1.pdf

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