Perhaps, but I get it that your ideology influencing your opinion regarding lenses, as well as turning this forum into an outlet for expressing your political views, while I would assume most of the apugers would be more
Originally Posted by guitstik
interested in the substantive discussion regarding KMZ lenses, IMHO
Multum egerunt, qui ante nos fuerunt, sed non peregedunt.
As an addendum to our 'Dear Moderator': I have never experienced an inferior Soviet lens.
Perhaps some will assert that that affirmation defines my political ideology but, no, it really defines my ability to assess acutance. I deflect assertions that pre-suppose technical inferiority as an affirming complement to personal political distastes. That applies to both left and right.
In sum, Dear Moderator earned his keep today. - David Lyga
Last edited by David Lyga; 01-04-2012 at 09:53 AM. Click to view previous post history.
The lenses I got to use with my Kiev are beyond reproach. Really excellent. The camera however...
Originally Posted by David Lyga
The engineering with the Soviet rangefinders was rather good but the quality control was beyond belief and sporadic. A few good ones made it through. - David Lyga
Go on then. I like a good explosion.
Originally Posted by JBrunner
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I think the rocket ditched in the ocean right from the start... with intend! You know, it wasn't Soviet build... only Soviet design Soyuz rockets carry humans to outer space these days
Originally Posted by Steve Smith
"The nineteenth century began by believing that what was reasonable was true, and it wound up by believing that what it saw a photograph of, was true.
" - William M. Ivins Jr.
"I don't know, maybe we should disinvent color, and we could just shoot Black & White.
" - David Burnett in 1978
"Analog is chemistry + physics, digital is physics + math, which ones did you like most?
I don't recall who made this observation, but I thought it was appropriate.
Originally Posted by David Lyga
In much the same way that the Japanese Contax were German engineered cameras manufactured in Japan the Kievs and FEDs were German cameras manufactured in the FSU. So as you point out, the engineering was good, but the quality was spotty.
There was no quality control to speak of. I have a few very nice ones that were made nice by Eddy Smolov for me. I have no clue how many carcasses he robbed for good parts to make them that way, and the dioper arm on one is just screwed down and frozen so it can't get fubarred again.
I guess I can say that for me the quality program was in Brooklyn!!
I think something wrong against soviet cameras. Big portion of APUG prefers Leicas , Hasselblads , Linhof , Rollei but when it comes to FSU cameras they wait miracles from 50 dollar Zorki. If you can try a Anamorphic Square Front 21 mm LOMO lens for 25000 dollars and see how soviet products work !
Trying to make a goal from cheapest product and compare with most expensive , is not IQ driven.
If you compare with japanese goods , there is no equivalent of sony , panasonic in usa also.
I think it's a great joke....
Along with what Umut says, have you ever had a Sovtek guitar amp? Built like tanks, powerful, well made, reliable.
I use their valves (tubes) in some of the stuff I make but I didn't know they made amps.
Originally Posted by holmburgers
EDIT: Or perhaps I did and had forgotten. After getting Mr Google to show me some pictures, I do recall seeing them before.
An amp like that is something anyone can make using garden shed based technology.