It's no stepchild. If anything the Nikkormat is, since Nikon couldn't call it what it was supposed to be, outside Japan. You're one of the chosen few, to have the actual Nikomat nameplate... :-) But, if you insist, I'll have a chrome FT2 style Nikkormat nameplate soon.
Good morning to photographers who appreciate the early Nikon SLR cameras;
The 1960's Nikon Project is nearing completion. Today a Nikon SB-7 Thyristor Flash Unit was handed to me to go on the rewind knob of the blackbody Nikon F. My goal was to assemble a collection of Nikon equipment representative of what an advanced amateur might have carried back in the late 1960's. I think that it is coming close.
So far there is the Nikon F Blackbody with Photomic FTn in a black case, 28 mm f 3.5, 35 mm f 2.8, 55 mm f 3.5 Macro with "M" ring, 58 mm f 1.4, 105 mm f 2.5, 135 mm f 3.5, and a 200 mm f 4.0; all pre-AI. All of the lenses are in the brown Nikon leather cases. There are 52 mm chrome ring filters to fit all of the lenses. There are the Number 0, 1, and 2 attachment close-up lenses in their individual brown leather cases. There is a non-automatic extension tube set in the brown leather case. And now I have the SB-7 electronic flash; not the SB-7E.
How does this sound? Is this fairly representative? Are there any other accessories or other lenses you think should be included? I have thought about including a 24 mm f 2.8, but I am not sure. I also looked for a BC-7 folding fan reflector bulb type flash gun, but I do not have anything to feed it. I also have tried to find a leather bag, Type FB-11A, FB-12, or FB-13, but that has also proven to be elusive.
What do you think?
The SB-7 is too new for the 1960's Nikon Project. Was made in the late '70s. At least, you got the rarer version of the SB-7, since most of the units you see for sale are the "E" version. Try to locate the SB-1. That will be more indicative as to what was sold by Nikon as an electronic flash when the F was for sale. Flash bulbs, contact Doug. I'm sure he still has some boxes. He also has three BC-7 flash units.
For a compartment case, check here: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/catalog/ch39.htm
Stock # 111292 would be a perfect fit for an F kit. Either that or #108871. More period correct than the cases you're mentioning, which were sold in the '80s.
Lens-wise, I'd look for a 20f3.5 Nikkor-UD. Was introduced near the end of the '60s. Probably would be a more noticeable jump from 28mm, than the 24mm.
Good Morning Ralph,
Just verified my Nikon F2A Photomic owner's manual. Manual was printed in January 1977. The three flashes it mentions are the BC-7, SB-2, and SB-5. Doesn't even mention the SB-7 or SB-7E.
The BC-7 is too much fun to miss. Let me know if you ever need some Ag-1s...
What a response. I had no idea what sort of ideas, suggestions, comments, recommendations, (and even corrections) and encouragement would result from describing this "retro" or "period" photography effort, "The 1960's Nikon Project." Thank you. Clearly this is not something that I could do alone. You are providing the information needed to make this not only real, but also true.
In looking at my own resources, I do indeed see that the Nikon Dealer's Handbook I have is dated in the late 1970's; mainly 1978. Yes, the SB-7 is later, but it is still a nice electronic flash unit, and it does work. Probably the correct one for that time, the SB-1, will not be easy to find. Oh, well. Even trying to find a replacement Honeywell Strobonar 600 (or the later 660) and the 510 volt battery pack that I had then is not easy. I do recall taking some very long range flash photographs with that flash on TX-400 film at f 1.4.
John had suggested a source for the Nikon SB-7 bulb type flash gun, but when the shop owner was approached, he said that he did not think that anyone would want "that kind of thing," so all three of them were thrown away. This is the kind of thing that makes working with older equipment a trial at times, and it also gives the emotions a bit of a roller coaster ride.
For the folding flash gun that I had (another of the casualties of the death of a marriage), I had obtained a little two inch parabolic reflector plug-in bayonet base AG-1 bulb adapter to go into the flash gun socket. That reflector was stripped of its silver paint, polished, copper plated, nickel plated, base chrome plated, and then finally lustrous chrome plated. This produced an optical system that gave me every bit of light available from the AG-1 and AG-1B flash bulbs. It worked quite well. I was proud of the optical qualities of that adapter.
If another Nikon BC-7 Flash Gun becomes available, I will remember the kind offer of something to feed it.
Again, for the suggestions and encouragement, I thank you.
Ralph, the third one that he chucked was one I got off eBait. Just keep searching for Nikon BC-7.
You can't go wrong with an Honeywell Tilt-a-mite, or any of the similar beasts. But the BC-7 IS undeniable cool.
Geez, sure seems like everyone got quiet. Currently have three 'mats. Two FT2's and one black FTn, in addition to the F FTn, which should be coming home soon.
Good morning, John;
Quiet may not be bad. We have survived another Thanksgiving, although the guest of honor did not.
Another Tamron Adaptall-2 for Nikon is coming, but I do not yet know the exact variant. Yes, I can use the 300 mm f 2.8 lens on the Nikons also.
Still more to be done with The 1960's Nikon Project. Still watching for a BC-7. I do think about a 24 mm or perhaps even a 20 mm lens, but my personal memories of that time period did not include the dream of a 20 mm or one of the 21 mm lenses. 28 mm was about as wide as I thought was reasonable (or was it affordable?) to go back then.
Enjoy; Ralph Javins
Good early morning, Ralph,
Anyway, if you want the Amphoto Nikon F/Nikkormat Handbook of Photography, I have a copy. I don't really need it, since the Braczko Complete Nikon System book is comprehensive enough, Nikon-wise. Will probably be at Doug's place tom'w morning. If not, I will definitely be at Kenmore. Can bring the book with me. Pacific Rim wants $40 for one in the same condition as mine, but I don't really want any cash for it.
Good morning, John;
Doug has been closed since last Thursday; a casualty of the snows. He will re-open after New Year's Day. I may put a sign on the door for him.
I have been to Kenmore Camera. They are holding some things for me until I can get to the bank on Monday. Yes, my post-Christmas shopping spree exceeded what I was carrying with me. They even have some things in stock that I never got around to examining, when I noticed that I had topped the volume of funding I was carrying.
There have been several times when I have thought that a telephone call to you would really help our co-ordination efforts.
Enjoy; Ralph Javins
Sent you a PM... I called Doug this afternoon, when I was @ Kenmore. Looks like he opens up on Friday, like you mentioned.
Hi guys, joining if you don't mind
I own a very faithful F2 equiped with a fantastic Nikkor H.C Auto 50mm f/2, never let me down a single time.
Regards to all
Just joined. I own, and treasure, a Nikon F2 and have a fair assortment of lenses. About half of them are Pre-AI, only one of which hasn't been AI'd. Doesn't really matter, though, because my F2 has the meterless DE-1 eye-level prism finder, and I prefer it that way. Got a Gossen Luna Pro and a trusty old Pentax Spotmeter V to handle the metering chores.
My wife bought me a DSLR for Christmas -- an EOS Rebel XS (we also own a 35mm Elan IIe that mostly she uses) -- and that camera's a hoot, but, quite curiously, it's had the opposite effect on me. Prior to owning the XS, most of the picture taking I've been doing -- I hate to say -- has been with a P&S digicam. Mostly for webshots and such. But just the process of using an SLR again, has reawakened the urge in me to dust off the old F2 and shoot film. There's a lot to be said, methinks, for taking things a bit slower and subscribing to delayed gratification.
My current lens selection is not spectacular, but not bad, either. I have a 24/2.8, 28/2.8, 35/2.0, 50/1.4, 55/3.5 M, 100/2.5 and an 80-200 f/4.5 zoom. I also have a couple of T-mount Century Precision Optics long teles: a 500/5.6 and a 650/6.8. They're old, preset lenses, but they take very nice sharp, contrasty photos. I accumulated a few different focusing screens along the way, and aso have the DW-6 finder and a speedfinder for an F, but it works just fine on the F2. For flash work, I have a Metz 60 CT-1 and a couple of Braun F-900s. All of them giant potato masher units with guide numbers up around 200.
Anyway, good to be here.
Just want to say hi to cooltouch and Andre, our latest members of our little group.
Hey Unca Bill! I was checking out your nice B&W images, and a question just occured to me. Probably oughta ask it over in one of the forums, but hey, I'll throw it out here too. I have about 20 rolls of Plus X Pan in my freezer that I've had for twenty years or so. For one reason or another, I've just never shot with them. Got rid of my darkroom stuff several years ago, so now I don't even have a way to process the film, although I 'spect I can find a place around here that will -- no doubt for a princely sum. Anyway, I'm figuring because it's B&W and all, it's probably still good. What do you think?
One way to find out for sure, I guess, would be to just go shoot a roll, eh?
As long as it's been frozen there should be no problem. Like you said just try it. I'm new to this group. I like anything Nikon. I joined the AI/AIS group first.
Good morning, Michael;
I agree with Ken. Pull out a roll, let it sit for a few hours to come back up to temperature, and then open it and put it into a Nikon. See what you get.
Regarding the processing of Black and White film, it is not expensive or difficult to get the film developing stuff and chemicals. One shot stuff is really convenient for an occasional user. Then you can also use one of the mail-in places. You can still use all of that PX. Have fun with it.
Enjoy; Ralph Javins
Well, my Nikomat FTn just went tits up. I actually caused its demise... Dropped it onto a concrete driveway inside its neveready case with an 85f1.8 mounted. The 85f1.8 survived just fine. The front standard on the FTn broke in half, leaving the shutter speed ring on the body, but taking the ring resistor and lens mount off. Its vital organs will live on in other Nikkormats. Luckily, I have another identical FTn coming sometime this week from eBait. $43.85, including the $15 shipping...