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  1. Ralph Javins
    Good morning, John;

    Wow, and all this time I thought that those cases would protect our cameras.

    The Tamron 06B SP 350 mm f 5.6 Mirror Lens came today. Yes, there is an Adaptall-2 Nikon mount to go on the back of it.

    Enjoy; Ralph Javins
  2. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Ralph,

    Part of the issue is that it dropped from 4', then rolled, hitting the right front tire of the car I was driving (same car that I was changing the tire on when you called in December). I suspect that if it had been a more gentle drop, it would've been ok.

    Oh, btw, did you call me a couple days ago? Was driving @ the time, if you did, and didn't recognize the phone number.

    -J
  3. Ralph Javins
    Ralph Javins
    Good morning, John;

    Well, I think I did try to call you. I do know that I have thought of calling several times, and there probably was an acting out on one of those thoughts. Again, it was to ask about the book. I will check with Doug again.

    The tech at Doug's just about has the EOS-20D open. They will try to replace the bent and the missing pins first. The next step if required will be to ask Canon for a new part. I am still not sure how I managed to damage the pins just putting the CF card into the slot. Life with a camera that just uses film is so much simpler. Those digital things are special purpose devices as far as I am concerned.

    Enjoy; Ralph Javins
  4. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Ralph,

    Doug might've sold it. He did say that he was going to offer it up for sale to the general public for $29.00, even though I told him that you had first right of refusal.

    With respect to the F4 that I had you check out, Kenmore just got another one in yesterday. It's an F4s, for $149.50. Marked as fair, condition-wise. Might be worth grabbing, if the LCD's are in good shape, and it's properly functioning.

    Also, Doug did not throw out all three BC-7 flash units. Found the last one I gave him. Not at his shop, but on eBait, through Glazer's. If you want it, I paid $8.72 for it, through them.

    -J
  5. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Won a Nikon DL-1 photomic illuminator for $7.35 today... Should be a nice addition to the F FTn. Now, just need an F-36 for it...

    -J
  6. Ralph Javins
    Ralph Javins
    Good morning, John;

    The BC-7 is still doing nicely. Thank you. And the loose leaf binder and contents are interesting. There is some stuff in there that I had not encountered before. It is nice to have more information on the earlier Nikons. Again, thank you.

    I am off to Oregon again. There is more training this weekend, and perhaps more work on radios and antennas. The last one I did down there turned out OK. The guy said that he was able to talk with the Communications Center on that antenna using just his handheld portable radio at one Watt output. He is very happy.

    Enjoy; Ralph Javins
  7. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Ralph, good deal. I'll be in Oregon myself, next weekend.

    -J
  8. Nikon Collector
    Nikon Collector
    Hi Guys and Ladies, proud owner and user of 1971 F2 with DP1, Nikkormat FTn, and a black EL. These and my FM2n are my primary shooters. I also have a FM, a FE, A F3HP, a F3 non HP, a black FG, and my latest find a F60 ( eyesights starting to get a little dim}
  9. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Check with your optometrist to find out what the diopter of your eyesight is. Once you find that out, locate the various diopters for your MF Nikon bodies. The F2, FTn, EL, and regular F3 all use the same diopters, and can also use the ones for the FM/FE series. The F3HP has its own diopters, but can also use the ones for the F-801, F90, and F100 bodies. Both the FG and the F60 most likely use the same diopters, namely the rectangular type introduced with the Nikon EM.

    Eventually, you might want to pick up an F4, since it's the only AF body that comes preconfigured to accept non-AI Nikkors (with limitations - certain serial # 35f1.4's don't work, 55f1.2's that weren't factory AI won't work, nor do the non-AI 28f3.5's, as won't the early ultrawides and fisheye lenses that require the mirror to be locked up). It makes a nice Pro-level FE2 with built-in MD-12, when combined with MF Nikkors.

    -J
  10. Nikon Collector
    Nikon Collector
    I wear eyeglasses that havent been a problem, but recently my prescription is changing after being the same for over 10 yrs and the F60 has a built in diopter adjustment that keeps me shooting in between eyeglass upgrades. Tried the F4, found the AF to be so slow that it was useless, about the same as my N2020 that I gave my grandson to play with.
  11. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Hmmm, interesting. Didn't notice the AF to be slow. Wasn't as quick as my F5's were, but, felt as snappy as a N90. Granted, I did use lithium batteries in my F4's. And, with an AF-S lens mounted, it was as quick as pretty much any other body with an AF-S lens mounted.

    YMMV, I guess.
  12. Nikon Collector
    Nikon Collector
    I was using a "D" lens. That could have been the problem. I'v never tried one of the "S"s
  13. Nikon Collector
    Nikon Collector
    John, another question, silver oxide batteries are getting harder to find locally, some of my cameras list alkalines as an alternate but with reduced svc life. Some advise against them due to erratic voltage. The lithium batteries seem to match the voltage drop of the silver ones. No camera actually advises against lithium except for Mamya. Can I use lithium in my F2?
  14. Ralph Javins
    Ralph Javins
    Good morning, Nikon Collector;

    (Actually, just about every head popped up at that opening greeting. It is not really that specfic, and it could very well apply to each one of us.)

    There should not be any problem with using the Lithium batteries in your F2. The Lithium battery discharge curve is almost as good as the Silver-Oxide battery discharge characteristic. John might correct me here, but I think that the F2 metering circuits were designed to use the later Silver-Oxide and similar 1.5 VDC batteries instead of the earlier mercury 1.35 VDC batteries, so there should be no problem with any adjustment or recalibration of the metering circuit to give you proper exposure indications. The one real advantage in using the Lithium batteries is their low temperture discharge characteristics. This is the battery that you want to have with you when you are taking photographs in Antarctica. Yes, they really are affected by reduced capacity at low tempertures also, but they will keep working down to a lower point than just about any other battery chemistry we can easily buy.

    Enjoy;

    Ralph
    Latte Land, Washington
  15. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Ralph,

    That's right. The F2 is perfectly happy with either a pair of LR44's, a pair of V76PX's, or one CR 1/3N installed. Every single Nikon I own, that can use two V76PX form factor batteries in a stacked configuration, has a CR 1/3N installed. Been using them for years. Even the two really early F2's that I had over the years were eventually equipped with the CR 1/3N. A black body in the 713xxxx range, and a chrome one in the 712xxxx range. I suspect that if I'd kept my really beat up black F2 Photomic that I picked up as a donor camera for my F2A, and I had the meter worked on, I probably would've put one in it as well.


    -J
    East Latte Land, Washington
  16. Nikon Collector
    Nikon Collector
    I've now changed most of my cameras over to the lithiums, really like not having to carry around a bunch of spares.
  17. John_Nikon_F
    John_Nikon_F
    Good!
  18. Barry P
    Barry P
    Glad to have found this group. After a 20-year hiatus from any substantial photography other than family point and shoot I decided to get back to it. After brief discussion with a much younger brother-in-law, a serious amateur photographer who began the hobby because of my Nikkormat efforts in the 70s and 80s, I joined the serious digital camera mess by buying a new Nikon D90 and a few lenses for it. It's a fine camera, but darn it's not the same. Immediately I missed my Nikkormat, mechanical devices, film, etc. So I dusted off my Nikkormat FT2 with the 55mm/f3.5 micro-nikkor I bought with it in 1975 and decided to get it in use again. It seems fine - everything works and the meter is even nearly perfect checked against Gossen light meter. Replaced seals and mirror foam, bought some film, and here I go.... Even bought several lenses from ebay (all Nikkor pre AI) to get the set of lenses I always wanted but could not afford in the old days. I am sure I can learn much from this group, about scanning slides or negatives, etc. Look forward to future interactions - glad to have found you.
  19. Ralph Javins
    Ralph Javins
    Good morning, Barry;

    Welcome to the Pre-AI NIKKOR Group. Nice to see someone else coming back to film from the 1970's or so, and in spite of (or is it because of) the digital steam roller.

    Your story is not unknown here. I also have a Nikkomat FTN along with some F and F2 stuff. Yes, there is something about the well built older cameras. I can just about use the Nikkomat FTN with its Copal Square metal shutter to check the accuracy of my camera testing equipment; it really is that good. Like you, there were things I wanted back in the 1960's and 1970's that had to wait until just recently for an opportunity to get them. In the NIKKOR lenses for The 1960's Nikon Project, they range from 24mm to 200mm. But, for the F2AS, I will need to get a 50mm f/1.4 AI to go with it. The onslaught of the digital steam roller has been a contributing factor in being able to afford those things I also would have liked to have 40 years ago.

    While you will see an occasional reference to scanning and digital manipulation of negatives, prints, and slides, most of that is handled over on the www.hybridphoto.com web site. It is almost funny, because in order to get a photograph we have taken and want to share with the people on APUG, we must put it into a digital form that can be transmitted.

    Again, welcome to the Pre-AI NIKKOR Group.

    Enjoy;

    Ralph, Latte Land, Washington
  20. Barry P
    Barry P
    Thanks for the welcome Ralph.

    I am not yet certain why digital is making me go back to film with vigor, but it is. The sounds and feel of my Nikkormat provide a level of comfort and satisfaction that the D90 never will be able to provide - I knew that after 10 seconds with the D90. I can sense, appreciate, and largely understand the technological wonderousness of a Nikkormat. It deserves as much life as I can give it. If I drop the D90 I will cringe only because of the money involved.

    Thanks for the link to the aptly named hybridphoto group. I respect the need to keep that stuff a little separate and thus the Pre-AI Nikkor Group on a higher plane, but I deal with both.

    Now I am going to go send some smoke signals to my distant sons.

    Have a good weekend.

    Barry, Vicksburg, Mississippi (no latte here - just hot coffee)
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