Telegraph: Traditional camera film makes a come back

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Originally Posted by perkeleellinen

Regardless of what the article says, I think it's great that a such a high profile site as the Telegraph has given film a wider publicity.

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Exactly, Steve.

Best regards,
Henning

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Originally Posted by mono

As we formerly said here: The snapshooters keep our hobby alive.
Nowadays these are the "lomos"!

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Hello Folker,

yes, these are the lomographers, too. But luckily not exclusively. For example sales of single use cameras are still quite robust as well (due to Kodak and Fuji).
By the way, Fuji see rising interest for their Instax cameras and films. There was a statement about that some weeks ago on photoscala.de.

Best regards from your former home town,
Henning

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Originally Posted by perkeleellinen

Incidentally, selling 500,000 new cameras & 4 million rolls of film during the biggest recession since the 1930s is some achievement. I wonder if that is up or down from sales in the early 2000s.

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Steve, that is significantly up compared to the early 2000s.
At that time LSI was a much smaller company than today.

Best regards,
Henning

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Originally Posted by perkeleellinen

On a good year I shoot around 100 rolls of film. I think this is a lot for an amateur, most probably shoot much less, maybe less than 50. If all the 'Lomographers' shoot 50 rolls then the 4 million sales equals 64,000 photographers or 128,000 if they shoot 25 rolls per year.

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Steve, the number of Lomographers is much, much higher.
An increasing number of them buy their film at other places, not at the Lomo stores.
You have to add this to the 4 million number (that is only the film sold directly from the LSI last year).
And other distributors like Freestyle are selling several ten thousand Holgas every year, and lots of film to theses photographers as well.

On www.lomography.com much more than 100,000 lomographers are registrated.

At the end of 2010 Lomo had 200,000 fans on facebook.
Now, less than a half year later, they have more than 295,000 fans on facebook.
50% more in 5 months. A good indication of their dynamic growth.
Last year they have opened 12 new stores worldwide, if I remember right.

No matter of liking them or not, their success is fact.

Best regards,
Henning

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Originally Posted by Henning Serger

Steve, the number of Lomographers is much, much higher.
An increasing number of them buy their film at other places, not at the Lomo stores.
You have to add this to the 4 million number (that is only the film sold directly from the LSI last year).
And other distributors like Freestyle are selling several ten thousand Holgas every year, and lots of film to theses photographers as well.

On www.lomography.com much more than 100,000 lomographers are registrated.

At the end of 2010 Lomo had 200,000 fans on facebook.
Now, less than a half year later, they have more than 295,000 fans on facebook.
50% more in 5 months. A good indication of their dynamic growth.
Last year they have opened 12 new stores worldwide, if I remember right.

No matter of liking them or not, their success is fact.

Best regards,
Henning

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Why are labs closing? I'd put very little store in facebook stats.

CGW, sorry to say, but you know nothing about the photo market.

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Originally Posted by CGW

iPhones are "good enough" for most of them and will only get better. This has killed the market for low/mid price p&s digicams.

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The market for p&s digicams was not killed at all. It is still growing, especially due to demand from the NICs.
In 2010 more than 100 million digital p&s were sold. Source: CIPA (organisation of the Japanese camera manufacturers).

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Originally Posted by CGW

Hoping I'm wrong .....

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You are ;).

Best regards,
Henning

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Originally Posted by CGW

Why are labs closing? I'd put very little store in facebook stats.

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Recession?
Labs: In Germany the number of labs is quite stable during the last two years. There are even new services.
Maybe the situation is different in Canada.

As I said, the facebook numbers are one indication.
Here is another:
http://www.lomography.com/about/jobs

Only fast growing companies are offering so much new jobs.

Best regards,
Henning

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Originally Posted by Henning Serger

Recession?
Labs: In Germany the number of labs is quite stable during the last two years. There are even new services.
Maybe the situation is different in Canada.

As I said, the facebook numbers are one indication.
Here is another:
http://www.lomography.com/about/jobs

Only fast growing companies are offering so much new jobs.

Best regards,
Henning

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Tell me there are more labs today in your market than 5-8 years ago.

N. American labs have been in steady decline for a decade. Just ask around.

The number of Lomography jobs is insignificant.

the market for p&s digicams was not killed at all. It is still growing, especially due to demand from the NICs.
In 2010 more than 100 million digital p&s were sold. Source: CIPA (organisation of the Japanese camera manufacturers).


Since I know nothing, which sells better: smart phones/camera-equipped phones or p&s digicams?

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Originally Posted by CGW

Since I know nothing, which sells better: smart phones/camera-equipped phones or p&s digicams?

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This is like claiming ipods are in terminal decline because cars with stereos sell better.