David, If you decide on the basement, there is a device that is called a lift station to take care of the drainage problems. I know that LA plumbing codes are some of the toughest in the nation and it would bear checking into whether these devices are allowable. Just by way of information.
The lift pump is how I did mine. Since there are no solids to be disposed you can use the lower priced models for pumping "grey water" from the laundry up to the drain.
thanks for the encouragement guys. The building is in a little bedroom community that is ethnically Hispanic and Afro American. We got the lease because it belongs to my partner's relatives. Somewhere down the family tree. They are Hispanic. We have not pulled any permits. So far we only have the electricity on. Officially! We turned on the water ourselves the other day to test the rest of the system and to flush the toilet. When we are ready I will officially turn on the water with the city. We have, as been mentioned doing all the construction work ourselves. I have 2 more darkroom people (one is a commercial guy and the other is a lawyer) that are helping pay the bills. My partner (he is a potter and artist) has a painter and video lady in his side. So, with 5 people we can split up the building expenses and so far, we have only spent about $300. Well, we did rent a 20 yard dump for $275 (we filled that up in about 3 hours). The place was trashed. It is pretty clean now. The next big expense is a 30 gallon water heater. My partner and I own a "handy man" type company here in Ft Worth. We install a lot of water heaters and the like. So it will be no big deal. Like I said we sorta "roughed' in the drain today. Tomorrow we will finish that wall. All the plumbing will be exterior and not in the walls as will the electricity. It will just be in conduit and run to where we need it. The bathroom in the darkroom will remain a bathroom but we are removing the sink and placing a shelf over the toilet to serve as a film loading area.
We have about 40 hours in the building of the darkroom. We have a lot more hours in the roof and general fix up of the building.
In darkrooms you can make them a fancy or plain as you want. I have had several darkrooms that were too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. Most of the rough darkrooms I have had have been really just closets or bathrooms. I am tired of that arrangement. Right now, I have been using the front bath for several years as a darkroom (the wife is VERY tolerant in that regard) with the hope that my daughter would move out and I could convert her room to a darkroom. About the time e started the darkroom in Everman, Tx, she moved out. Go figure!
In response to costs for building a darkroom, I recently spent about $2000 on mine. I painted floor and walls, put in an 8-foot fiberglass sink and plumbing (I already had hot and cold water outlets stubbed in, but had to install faucets and pipes), two 3x3-foot cabinets on the walls, an 8x4-foot work surface (covered with formica) on the opposite wall with a 4-drawer cabinet underneath and various shelves for paper, 4 8-foot shelves on each wall, a corner set of narrow shelves for chemicals and mixing, and a combination UV light exposure unit and drying cabinet. I already owned two enlargers, timers, trays, scales, a print washer, etc., but I had to purchase some additional safe lights.
How large is the room where your darkroom is located. The one I am building is to be shared by 3 people. And of course the expense is also. My room is 13'-6" square. I will have 2 eight foot sinks and 3 work spaces. There is a small room on the other side of the darkroom wall that will be a finishing room and office. It is about 13'-6" x about 9'. There is a 32" door connecting both rooms. Like you, the 3 of us all have most of the equipment needed to use the darkroom as soon as it is finished.
Hi Ed and Lee and all,
I'm going to be finishing out a darkroom soon. Any tips about things you would have done different or tips not ordinarily found in the "How to Build a Darkroom" books?
Tips they don't tell you about:
Make the room as big as you can and add more electricity than you think you need. Also, you can never have enough sink. I will have 16 feet of sink. I may have more but I just don't know yet. They are not in place yet. Where I live you need to add cold water to the tap so you can cool the tap down. In the summer, the average temp straight from the tap is about 90 degrees Fahrenheit. So, we are installing a chiller. The water heater is only going to have to be used about 3 or 4 months a year.
Also, the construction time will take twice as long as you think it will.
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Who are you getting the chiller from?
Reminds me of an Aggie joke (not that Aggie, Texas Aggies).
Aggie is at Harvard, waiting to interview for graduate school. Professor walks by...
Aggie: Excuse me sir, where are the restrooms at?
Professor: Son, at Harvard we don't end sentences with a preposition.
Aggie: Oh. Sorry, where are the restrooms at, a#!hole!
I don't know the brand of the chiller. One of the darkroom guys has three and we believe we will be able to make at least one work. I have only seen the chiller in the guys storeroom. Daily life has interrupted the building of the darkroom for the time being. We are almost ready to paint the place and install the door. I am gonna put down some 1x4's for molding on the floor in an effort to help control the dust.
As soon as I know the brand I will pass it on to you guys.