BVY Have you been to the f295 symposium in Pittsburgh?
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BVY Have you been to the f295 symposium in Pittsburgh?
So your saying that image was not sharpened? I sharpen most my pinhole images after being scanned. Have not had the chance to enlarge and print in the traditional way yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bvy
My personal belief that sharpening pinhole images for display in the web is a travesty of the truth. The images were not created sharp by the camera and should not be represented as such, by some stretch that the photographer believes it should be sharper to match his usual standard.
I do concede that some sharpening is necessary to at least overcome inherent failings in simple scanning and subsequent displaying, but too many images I have seen are deranging the ethereal softness of pinhole so that the result resembles the tack-sharp images of SLRs, MF or LF! The question is, why? Definition, not sharpness, is the technical bit of pinhole and is best appreciated viewing the negative of a print. Leave the the image as the pinhole created it and delight in primal way of the camera obscura.
I have not. That's for real photographers (!). I'm just a guy making cameras out of stuff from the kitchen.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM2N
Right. No sharpening or other Photoshop trickery. View it full size though, because I think Flickr applies sharpening to images it resizes for display.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMBooth
Amen to that. I don't even sharpen my digital photos anymore. Maybe I should (or could), but sharpness looks much better when the lens delivers it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poisson Du Jour
Yes the full size is what I would agree is pinhole sharp, flickr does sharpen for resize.Quote:
Originally Posted by bvy
Beware of Picnik, the accomplice to Flickr that can absolutely ruin images, AND re-post them willy-nilly, adding confusion ad-naseum.
I am reviewing my options for how to get pictures up and not have them bedevilled in the couldron of Picnik.
That B&W photo appearing earlier in this thread — though undeniably quite a striking scene — has probably been sharpened several times, and—? If so, it is a false representation of the nature of pinhole. We must all remember to show pinhole images for what they are, and leave their inherent failings alone. We've all got access to cameras that produce images of outstanding sharpness and beauty. Pinhole has a beauty all of its own and that's what we need to embrace, not summarily impose elaborate technical refinements. Enjoy it.
BVYYou don't know what you are missing. The vast majority of attendee's are pinholers who make their own cameras. It is a real blast to walk around Pitt. with a group of 10-20 pinholers talking and taking wonderful pics. There are usually 1 or 2 gallery openings which include many wonderful pinhole images. I hope you will get out with us next time.
Arthur
My camera shipped today! Well.. actually about 22 hours ago :) 2 - 3 days shipping was my quote. I'm feeling like a kid waiting for Santa Claus to show up :D
Thanks, Arthur. Seriously, I do post to the f295 forums and have had some e-mail conversations with Tom (its founder) -- we actually live about a mile from each other. It's great to have such an organization right here in Pittsburgh, and I do hope to get involved sometime soon.
Perry Way, sorry if I (we?) hijacked your thread. For now, I'm enjoying making my own cameras, but there is something appealing about a professionally built pinhole camera. Scott Speck's stuff, as you pointed out, is especially inspiring. Anyway, congrats on your purchase. Looking forward to seeing some results...
I have contemplated buying a camera from Zero Image from time to time. I really like the design of adding or removing "frames" to get the desired focal length and the turret for the various pinholes. Getting a multiple focal length camera, pinholes and zone plates for that price seems a real bargain.