The new dm drugstore films are made by FujiFilm now. Kodak has lost this big client.
A friend of mine told me that one of the bigger supermarket chains in the US (I think it is Target) also recently switched from Kodak to Fuji.
OEM films are bought in by the chain-stores companies by the price. In this case manufacturers already cranking out a huge amount of film (in absolute terms, non-withstanding their decrease in machinery-effectivity) are still better off than a company re-starting on a low volume after years of standstill in film-making.
Look at what Ilford did before they went bankrupt.
They sold OEM film to places like Freestyle and Fine Art Photo Supply, and probably many others. While volume can be good in terms of market share, if you make little to no profit on each sale (especially since people quickly figure out they could buy FP4+ for very little money), then you quickly eat into the total profitability of the company. Every sale must count.
Now that they are a healthy and sustainable company, they don't use their own emulsions for OEM purposes anymore.
I can't say that I blame Fuji for not supplying OEM films anymore. In pure economic terms, profit is better than volume.
Although, IIRC correctly, Ilford have said that while they don't use the "Ilford" emulsions for other labels, they certainly manufacture their Kentmere films with different emulsions to tap into different markets.
(And we still have no confirmation that Fuji is "not supplying OEM films anymore"!!!) :whistling:
In the 1950 era some Hong kong stuff was labelled "Made in the British empire" or "British made" or "Made in British crown colony" when they could get away with it.
Besides the Americans, I am not sure how many countries insist on country of origin being marked on products. I know here the dealer can just have the goods marked with "Imported BY..." (but of course if they give a location it must be factual)
To get back to the Gist of the thread, I am wondering how many retailers are ordering ENOUGH film to make private label products viable? The minimums are likely still in the Thousands of rolls, with a take or pay clause if the retailer does not order the full quantity of the contract.
As far as the Sunny, I did get a chance to compare the can that the Sunny came in to a can that some Arista Colour, Known ot be made by Ferannia came in. Other than the markings being slightly less distinct that were almost identical. The only substantive difference I could see what the Sunny Can did not have a mould number on the inside of the Lid. Imnation did have a plant in the US as well as in Italy for COnveting film for sale, and perhaps both had tooling to make the cans, so one set of tooling may be now in China. A slightly different mix of Polyethylene could account for the slightly less sharp markings on the Sunny film can. The lids did interchange.
All we need to do is see the rebate of said film we're discussing here. That will point to who it is.