Not that it's terribly important but whoever packaged this most likely used the same tube/canister design as for their other products. The answer is in the cap.
I agree with all the above but were still talking about good 'ol fashioned customer service and if Lupus doesn't do their homework, I might buy elsewhere...
I wanted to run some thru HC-110 and when seeing their times (in my estimation) merely copy and pasted from prior benchmarks from the film industry, it's just not that fuzzy feel that Ilford, Kodak and ADOX provide....those are my main films....just wanted to try out APX 400 considering that the APX100 was a great film, I thought I'd see what it's like.....throwing away $20 (2 rolls a film and shipping) seems like a big amount of waste to me to dial in my dev, contrast, etc....
Might'a just talked myself out of even considering this film due to what I perceive is bad cust serv via poor marketing, web site clarity....etc
Am I over reacting? Just trying to justify $6 a roll....this stuff better be the bees knees to continue buying it....
Anyone dev a roll yet?
Fwiw, I was quite excited to mess with a new film but this apparent (my estimation) sloppy work by Lupus has me wondering why bother....
Yes, the DX database is out of date. But, when you told that APX 400 is 017712, that first part (0177) identifies the manufacturer which is used by the Kentmere films. It was just the proof that it is made by the same manufacturer.
Also, another clue was in the expiry date: almost 5 years from now. Most of Ilford/Kentmere films have 5 years of shelf life. Oh, and the lettering of that expiry date on the box is the same style.
I have some Kentmere 400 and I'm just waiting for APX 400 to arrive to try them together in 2 identical cameras and lenses.
Very interesting intel Ricardo...
So I've a roll of Walgreens branded color print film here, it says made in Japan (ie Fuji), the dx code is 706253, is that the Fuji manufacturing number?
Yes, some of the numbers identify the manufacturer. See Pascal de Brujin posts here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ishootf...7634758592012/
And this here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ishootf...7634429783414/
This DX Code list is from 2008:
Come to think of it, does anybody else here think it's dishonest and misleading to use an old established (and highly desirable) brand name, in order to sell a product that is something different?
But for film I don't particularly like it, not because it's dishonest or anything, but if it's a different recipe and the dev times are different then that's just asking for confusion...