Wow, Im surprise Hoegh, I give you a compliment and you take what i said as a personal attack.
I guess that is the double edged sword of ambiguous text online, very hard to read.
Just reiterating, I am not a "Leicaphile" nor do i believe that leica is the be all and end all, and use many different cameras that aren't leicas.
I respect anybody for what ever gear they use, I don't care what it is and as long as the are using it.I do see a lot of people really get worked up over people owning leicas, which confuses me, because it doesn't mean anything.
There is a guy i know of who runs a photography blog, more than half of the comments on his blog are, "Rich kid and his Leica" or something similar. Now Im not involved in this blog nor do i know the owner personally, so i don't really care, i think it is sad that people are judging him based on his money rather than his photography. But when nearly every negative comment you see from people bashing online is regarding the cost of the cameras, what else are owners supposed to think other than people jealous of their stuff.
Besides, I see you've owned many more Leicas than me, and you have pointed out to me that you are full of attitude. I am much more interested in finding out why you changed to use to nikon and you could have educated me on that.
I never said i was better than everyone else, but i certainly am better than being worried about what is niche or cool. I just like photographing stuff, I don't care what it is with, nor should you, get rid of your nikon and make a pinhole.
I have noticed the arrogance you talk of, with Leica users and many others also, and it isn't contained to the photography scene,
I just want to see peoples photos and talk about technique and interesting subjects for shooting
I've never owned a Leica, but owning any camera doesn't make you a photographer, only an owner, any more than owning a Stradivarius makes you a violinist.
Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh
In my experience most people own cameras that are better cameras than they are photographers, and I include myself in this
Well ssaid Benji, I wish i were so eloquent.
A perfect example... :)
Originally Posted by Mustafa Umut Sarac
If Leica is Da Vinci , Japanese cameras are Da Vinci copy and the cheap one. Whenever I see a nikon shot and canon shot , I felt discust about the quality. Yes , they have a special signiture and it makes me like seeing a very ugly woman. Bokeh is too much , no detail in bokeh area , its like waving water , cheap look , colors are soulless , noise is like a pandemic illness on face , tonal values are not strong , lack of depth of field ,
there is always a eye catching non sharp area in the Picture , no shadow or highlight detail , if there is one , other is not there etc etc. They are not for professionals , I am not talking about wedding photography.
I dont think that there is anything cheap about a lot of japanese cameras. Canon made one of the best Leica lenses out there, the .95 TV Lens "Dream". I played with one not long ago, and I reckon it does 99% of the Leica equivalent for 1/5 of the price second hand, Beautiful bokeh and creamy light...Yummy... I adore Fujis older products, and I am hoping to purchase a medium format GW tomorrow if it is still on the shelf. I will also admit I own a digital Fuji too, even though it is like a swear word in here.
What does it matter what he uses to shoot, so long as he does, I have only been a member here for a few days and haven't posted any of my works so I am in no position to complain about his apparent lack of doing so. But I can say this, Leica makes a really robust, compact reliable body and some of the best lenses in the business. They have been doing this since day dot. anyone who is shooting with a rangefinder camera must concede that without these roots their own japanese equivalents wouldn't exist as they are whether improved upon or not.
just get out there and shoot! By the way E Van Hoegh, I took my own advice, and made a pinhole today :D
Originally Posted by Mustafa Umut Sarac
Sorry to disagree but you have a huge majority of professional photographers against you. Maybe you can teach them what is real professional photography and how they should use anything but Leica... :D
I have only seen pictures of Leica cameras and they are very nice looking. If I suddenly came into a large sum of money I would buy a new car, I love my cameras and my dinky darkroom. My only paying shoot was a car show, got one of there t shirts as payment, which is what I asked for. I certainly have nothing against Leica owners and do not have a clue if they are better than my Nikon, Argus, Yashica, or Rollei. I have compared photos taken of the same subject at the same time and taken a digital at the same time. With my eyes I can not tell any difference. Lucky my only critics are my wife and daughters so I think I am pretty good:^) Just my 2 cents worth.
Over and over again, it will never end will it?
How many people more need to die because of religion?
Andreas, it really is the same argument isn't it.
Oneguy, your cameras sound great, I love Yashica and Rollei stuff, especially the TLR box stuff. Just make sure they get good use out of you.