New 110 Camera
interestingly, The Lomographic Society has announced a new Diana 110 camera. Guess they are really serious about this 110 thing. Personally, I'm glad because it may keep 110 film available for a while. Check out the new camera at: http://usa.shop.lomography.com/camer...d-lens-package It comes with the standard 25mm lens or in a two lens package with a 12mm wide angle. Wow! an interchangable lens 110 camera - not quite the Pentax 110. Also, I don't see that the viewfinder changes so I guess you're on your own with the 12mm lens.
Always a good day when a new analog camera goes on sale! Got a 110 laying around that might get a new lease on life!
I wonder why they made it to shoot square (presumably 13x13mm)? The original standard is 13x17mm and most cameras actually shoot 13x19mm (which only has to be cropped to 17 if the film was pre-exposed between frames).
I think they made it "square" as they are selling it as a "mini Diana" and Diana produces 6x6 (square) negatives. Presumably they thought that a Diana user would have been somehow off-guard if confronted with a rectangular format.
I thought maybe when they say 'square' they mean not round as in the fisheye 110 camera. The Orca and Color Tiger films are pre-exposed to the 13X17 rectangular format.
What do you mean by pre-exposed to a rectangular format? They certainly don't expose frame boundaries in the film do they? They probably expose the film number and such things. I expect all roll film to have a continuous sensitive surface. I mean, just like you can take 4,5x6, 6x6, 6x7 and 6x9 frames on the same 120 roll film, or just like you can take 24x36 or 24x18 half-frame pictures on a 135 roll, you should be able to take 13x13 and 13x17 on the same 127 cartridge.
Originally Posted by bsdunek
Actually there are frame boundaries pre-exposed on 110 film. See my illustration below. As it is a positive, note the stark white surrounding the image.
As for square format, looking at the reviews on the Diana 110, it does look like it takes square pictures. I would rather it used the entire frame. Of course I'm not going to buy one. I like my Minolta 110 Zoom, my Minolta Weathermatic 110 and my Agfamatic 2000 110.
Why this insanity?
Possibly because the images come out with a white border, "à la Polaroid", even though the printer doesn't set the machine for the border?
That also require a certain precision in aligning the white stripes with the actual frame made by the camera. A recipe for problem (supposing that for somebody using a Diana a problem really is a problem).
Traditional 110 films were pre-exposed between frames, a feature intended to make it easier and more efficient for photofinishers to print: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110_film
Whether new 110 films such as the Lomography or Fukkatsu releases have similar pre-exposures I have no idea. Kinda doubt it.
I like getting those extra couple of mm's in my Pentax auto 110 using non-perf 16mm film slit from 35mm.
Originally Posted by Diapositivo
who cares if it is square format or rectangular
more people buy film its a good thing.
i like my pentax, i won't be buying the diana,
but it looks nice.