</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert @ May 2 2003, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>1) Hardeners needed an acid enviroment to work.
I have abandoned acid in my fiber process totally - after develop (Neutol 1+11) I stop with 3 minutes/4 changes water. Then two baths of plain-fixer (mr. Adams style no acid) - then a holding-tray with water a few minutes before Selenium 1:20. The whole cycle is performed in one single tray - with no acid in neither step.
Am I missing something regarding hardeners here?