thanks vedmak ...

last night for a good while i
fiddled with the camera to load it.
what it looks like is going on is
the camera loads fine, and the film
actually goes around and around and around
the take up spool, but as soon as i close the back
there is too much tension on the film
and the spool doesn't want to wind anymore.
not sure what they call that --- clutch problems ?
in anycase i will probably take / send it to a repair person ...

john