I agree Shawn....there is NO compelling reason to use a staining developer to develop negatives to use with the Lodima paper. Having agreed with you, if one is DBI, then a staining developer-by virtue of the fact that the stain "desensitizes" the film a bit to light, might be better to use. Certainly Pyrocat HD in trays is very inexpensive to use, especially of one makes the two parts oneself. Using BTZS calibrations, and using the Jobo expert tanks, I too have had no problem making negatives that print well on Lodima. The negatives are certainly NOT as dense as those made by Michael and Paula; but then again, the film doesn't have nearly the base plus fog that the aging Plus X film that they use so well. Thanks.