Rick: I did some BTZS testing of the pre-production Lodima, and the new grades as well. The new Grade 3 AND the "pre-production" Grade 2 had a very similar ES on testing with the 21 Step Wedge using the MAS Amidol formula....about 1.18, untoned. The new Lodima Grade 2 had an ES of about 1.26. As you can see, neither was in the ANSI standards for the grades. However, as has been stated numerous times, the ANSI grades simply provide some guidance, and one should consider testing one's materials using the conditions in one's lab. I am developing my negatives to approximate the ES values of the paper I obtained via testing...although, to be honest, since I like prints with more "punch", I tend to develop the negatives to a point that is just a bit more contrasty. So with the Grade 2 I will develop negatives to an ES of about 1.35, and for use with the Grade 3 paper, negatives will be developed to an ES of about 1.25. Please recall that MAS did tell us that the pre-production Grade 2 printed like an Azo Grade 3 in his hands. Obviously then, the NEW Lodima "Grade 3" matched the ES of the previously mentioned Grade 2. Just a matter of semantics, but those who might be guided by the designation of Grades on the box might be surprised to learn that the NEW Lodima Grade 2 acts like a conventional Grade 1 or even softer, and one really does "need" negatives that are more dense. I will try to find the time and inclination to test the new Fomalux FB Grade 2 to see where the paper fits into the ANSI scheme. However, by your comments it might well be that the new Fomalux Grade 2 approximates an ANSI Grade 2, and could be more "true to grade". Thus, I much appreciate the information you supplied Rick.
By the way, it might be interesting to print the negatives you alluded to on the new Lodima Grade 2.....I would guess that they might print quite well!
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