I have 2 bulk loaders that are almost full of old fogged film. 1 has some Tri -X pan safety film and not sure about the other. Some type of Kodak if I remember correctly. I was only using it to show people how to load their own film. The film has been kept in a warm cabinet for a few years so I KNOW it is old. For the safety film I purchased it @ the Swap Meet for $3. Place an advertisement in Craigslist and I am sure you will get responses. Give me $5 for 2 bulk loaders with film included.