Had a LX some time ago as well as an EC. Both were sold but have retained a user C complete with tripod mount. I made some wonderful images with both the LX and C and I absolutely concur these are not toys being much closer to the finest Swiss watch movement. I retired my use of these when I got the Minox ML and am happy I kept at least the C as the ML sadly had the infamous shutter 2x and when it went out the 2nd time, I gave it as a parts unit to a friend who had an MDC along with all the filters, cases, etc.