Well, I've been using aristo ortho-lith for over twenty years with none of these problems I have been reading about. I usually metered it at asa25, packard shutter on instaneous, or if not very bright, 1/10 (click-uh as fast as you can say it). I also shot a lot of beach and harbor scenes with a Speed Graphic, and a 3 1/4 X 4 1/4 voightlaander. When I first started doing this I didn't know to expose at asa3. So, after developing for about 12 minutes in dectol 1 to 24, water rinse for a couple of minutes and then fixing and washing, all in trays I got what I was sure were too thin negs. But I printed one anyway, and surprise, surprise, it looked good. When you start developing by inspection, when you think it's done, let it develope another few minutes. I had just finished reading some english book from the 1890's that warned about pulling film out too soon. My temps were 65f. Hope this helps.