Frank - i find the lubitel is too good to be bad ... if you catch my drift. It has a multi element coated glass lens which can be pretty good, if you can get it focused ok (always a prob with a lubi) - it has poor quality build though so is quite toyish in that manner. One of my lubis does vignette to some degree, but the other doesnt at all so it;s hit and miss. I reckon if you are interested in the toy look, plastic is the only way to go .. holga or diana I'm afraid IMO