With start times at 4:30 AM, there was little time for coffee. See this thread for some of the deals http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ad.php?t=75770 Galli did in fact drive off a cliff, a short one fortunately. Also, we are all now members of the black paw club. As far as I can tell the whole workshop was a pyramid scheme based on brass lens, Eddy and Jim should not be allowed in the same state together since they will just engage in price fixing.