I think Ilford will be around for a while as they have already scaled their operations to adjust to the new reality. I think the death knell for Kodak's film business will be when a critical mass of movie theaters convert to digital projection and film is no longer needed for movie distribution. A whole lot of film manufacturing capacity goes into making distribution stock for the movie business. Take that out of the equation, and all you have left is a couple hundred thousand enthusiasts like ourselves as the market. I think Ilford can live on that, since that is essentially their market today. I'm not so sure about Kodak.