Checked with Robert White...he does have the 65 mm lens and the 45 mm lens and also the kit i.e. camera body with lens--about 1100-1200 U.S. for the kit...maybe this is the only way I don't know....I paid a little less than that when the camera first came out-Educator's discount through Tamron-I was teaching photography at the community college at the time....It looks like I will have to hang in their as Tom did and grab an ebay bargain.