Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
hi chris

how dense are your 4x5 sheets and other films ?
i have found that when i contact print my sheet film ( even roll film exposures cut and contact printed )
the density of the film really makes a difference in the final print.
if the film is too thin, the optimal exposure will be short, you will need to boost contrast with
filters, or different strength developers and water baths to bathe the print in ...
and it really makes a more difficult task, not that it can't be done ...

les mclean has a great article on split grade ( filter ) printing, and i use it often when printing film on the
thin side ( thin meaning not as bullet proof as my contact printing film )

using a hard filter and a soft filter really makes muddy tones rich and crisp ..
it takes a little bit of practice but in the end the prints speak for themselves

good luck !
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking about giving split grade a shot for the muddy shadow detail. I am going to try to print the over exposed negative first. I think since there is an incredible amount of shadow detail in that negative, I should be able to print it ok if I use a hard filter to increase the over all contrast of the print.

I am going to also try shooting at a lower EI and souping the film in a lower dilution of Rodinal as well to increase the compensating effect to get the shadows out of the toe of the film. This should fix that problem because I do not want to be doing split grade printing in the future unless I have to. I guess the old saying is true -- expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights.

Thanks for the help guys,
Chris Maness