Bruce, both rolls were processed at a local walgreen's not the best maybe but convenient and the chemicals hadn't been changed and the same person ran both rolls through the minilab. Mcgratten I'm with you on the ergonomics thought maybe it was just me because the gsn is so well thought of. Nathan, the light could be part of it didn't know ektar was that fussy about light but I wouldn't think that ektar would render like fuji 200 with similar lighting.Guess I'll shoot the next ektar later in the day with the fed to compare that. My suprise was that there seemed to me to be a noticble difference that I really had not seen shooting other film in both.