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I also have the 135 2.8 (pre ai) that I got really cheap right here at apug recently.
Only used it once so far but for the money it's a great deal if you can deal with the focal length.

I actually like 135mm but a lot of folks don't these days if you believe online chatter.

I have the EF 135 f/2 for EOS canon and that thing is amazing.

The lack of openmindedness about lenses here and elsewhere can be tiresome and misleading. I guess it's soothing to repeat received wisdom when that's all you've got. This always interferes with these discussions, especially discussions of Nikkor lenses when specific limitations and shortcomings are overwhelmed by generalizations and vague "chatter," as you put it.