Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
Maris, if you had shown a mobile phone to Alexander Graham Bell he would not have believed it possible.
Maris is correct. A metasystem is required to record the "total" system.

And I dare say that visionaries like Bell, Edison, Eastman, et. al most certainly would believe stupendous progress. In fact they would expect it. They imagined it.

What they wouldn't believe is stagnation.