Quote Originally Posted by thomas l View Post
Interesting discussion. To the health system of UK I have to say that it is not very good compared to better working health systems in the European Union.

From my Austrian perspective is interesting that the private styled US health system is more expensive than our semi state run health system but does not at the same time provide sufficent health care for everyone. For us it is normal that everybody has the possibility of getting state of the art health care for free and that everybody has to pay money to the public health insurances. That doesn't mean we are living in a paradise, but generally this is fair. And so for us it seems quite strange, when we are listening to the news and listen the Republicans in the US, that they are afraid of the USA becoming a socialist country just because of Obama's health reform. They do not know much about socialism I think....
Oh we Americans know too much about socialism. We see every single european country (including Germany and Austria) in fiscal trouble. It's sad that you socialists are running out of someone else's money, and all your countries are going the way of Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, and even England, where they too are in financial straits. Yes. They. Are. And the way of socialism causes the populations to forget self-initiative, and develop an entitlement mentality...thus the nanny state...they have all been trained to EXPECT the government to step in and "solve their problems"...immoral, to be sure, to be sure, to be sure.

Still, our system over here in the USA is bad, terrible. In short it is because doctors are greedy bastards, and so are the drug makers. Everyone in the medical field are greedy and demand massive pay, and little compasion.