Oh - well I just order the Ultrafine duplicating film and didn't realize that it takes a really long exposure. I will be getting it early next week so I'll give it a try and report back. I have high hopes for it though the long exposure time could be a deal breaker. BUT, I just tried their Ortho Litho product and after a preliminary test I am very stoked about it! It seems to work exactly like the Arista Ortho Litho I used to get from Freestyle. This is very good news for me. I teach alternative printing techniques and there was a semester that I was just at a loss for a film to use that my students could afford.