[BrianShaw]

I don't disagree with you David (except that you were a "perfect" or "ideal" child who never had a tantrum in your life).

Kids will have both tantrums and "those moments" no matter how much love, nurturing, or dominance is applied by parents. It comes with their age, and fortunately leaves with age too. It is affected by sleep, hunger, and boredom. It is also affected by their God-given personalities.

The longer I exist on this earth as a parent, the more I realize that parenting is tough... and the more I realize that only a parent can best understand kids. Even "former parents" seem to loose that skill.

Re: gay people and children... there are plenty of gay parents out their. Some adopt and other surrogate. Interestingly, despite having strong opinions on that topic... those kids end up being decent people and fairly normal too. Kids are kids, and kids are quite resilient.