there is a somewhat inactive paper negative "group" i started last year.
http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/paper-negative.html

hi david:
would it be possible for the "groups" posts to be included in the main forum posts so people
realize they are there ? there are a lot of apug-groups but they are tucked away and new people
( and old ) don't know they are even there ...

- john