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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Frizza View Post
    It took me just over 20 attempts to get the image looking 'correct' and all I've practiced with is shots of colour charts. The most challenging part for me was figuring out the re exposure steps. My second challenge was getting the development in each layer correct. I had issues with the magenta development stage for the green layer. In the early stages I had problems with silver remaining in the other layers, once that was sorted i had a few other things to tweak.

    As you always said Ron the process can be done by hand....but your absolutely right about cost, effort, time and access to chemicals and i will add im skeptical of precise control (getting the exact same result each time). with the amount that can go wrong in this process and the unavailability of fresh film....i think its best this process be left alone.

    I will never offer this as a service, Im still sane and glad i saw it could be done but upon reflection I think compared to the simplicity of other reversal methods its a ghastly way of making a positive image ( no offense) but ....it isn't easy.
    I would firstly like to congratulate you for your successful attempt at processing kodachrome!
    Someone tried doing exactly the same thing back in the day when kodachrome was king of colour films, and using the correct couplers and chemicals from Kodak was unable to get satisfying results, although i must admit this was probably the older k-11 process or possibly even older again.

    If you do more experiments in processing kodachrome, it would be very interesting to see how an actual photograph (sky, skin tones etc) turns out and compares to the last kodachromes developed at Dwaynes, it will be extremely interesting also how long the dyes last compared to the original k-14 couplers (if there is anything significantly different in the couplers or developers) would be very interesting test to put some up in a hot place like the roof cavity in the full heat of the sun to see how stable the dyes are.

    It is an extremley complicated process, and i know that some of the chemicals in the formulas you posted on facebook are available on alibaba at a price, from memory one chemical in the cyan developer was $2500 per ton!

    Anyway, if its any help to you or anyone else interested in processing kodachrome, i have created a Wiki called Kodachromia its found here at kodachromia dot wikia dot com

    This way, any information can be collected and arranged in an easy to find way, that makes it easier than scrolling through thousands of forums and patent documents trying to find those little bits of useful info.

    Since im a member of thekodachromeproject forum, ive been well aware as well as some of you are in regards to this "k-lab" of klittlegraphy's.
    We have not heard from him in a long time, so are unable to know its whereabouts even if it still exists or not.
    But i think the best way to look at processing this film is to obtain the correct equipment such as a k-lab or else its a waste of time.
    Im not sure how much kodachrome is even left, but alot sold on ebay, and any that turns up sells fast.

    You can keep the developers from oxidising if they are stored in sealed containers that have no air space, hence the bag in box design that the k-lab used.
    They also filled any air space inside with an inhert gas such as nitrogen, to flush out any oxygen left.

    Kodak has not ruled out the possiblity of producing kodachrome again in botique amounts, so this will be very interesting to follow, would be some years away i would imagine. The worlds demands for such a small amount would only require a sinlge k-lab type machine. Its quite obvious that the chemicals are available to process kodachrome if you know where to look, so wont be any problem for kodak to supply them, since they have the resources to make them.
    Will be interesting to see what happens, at least we all hope that they will once again produce their E6 range of films on a smaller coating machine.
    Im not really looking forward to shoot Fuji when my Ektachrome stocks run out.



    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    An appendectomy can be done quickly and easily nowdays, but did you know how awful it used to be? That was only 60 years ago, when they had you in a bed for a week with stitches, many many stitches up your abdomen. And, surgery on the eyes for cataracts had you immobile for days with braces on your head. Today it is a walk in procedure.

    So... E6 vs Kodachrome. - same difference!

    Steve;

    I have some ideas on this though regarding easier means to Kodachrome type results using B&W film. I would be interested in your source for Color Developers and your source for Couplers.

    Thanks.

    PE
    Is that even possible?!
    Obviously it must be coming from someone such as you!
    Correct me if im wrong, but as far as i understand, Kodachrome is essentially a B&W film made of 3 layers sensitised to each of the 3 primary colours?
    But a standard B&W film is sensitive the the full colour spectrum?
    I cant see how it could be any easier to add colour couplers to a B&W film than kodachrome when each colour layer is not seperate, i expect you would still have to do re-exposures to add the dye couplers?
    Either way, im confident you have the know how to do this, and you must know something that Kodak didnt!
    I will be very keen to try this out myself if easy enough. If it possible to get kodachrome like results with a B&W film, then this will be quite exiting.
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