Again thank you so much for these.
Does the 'ninja star" highlight rendering only show up around f/2? There is a lot of discussion on the net on the effect this has on bokeh even where there re no specular highlights in a scene.

I'm thought the 135 f/2 had this also but I need to look into it more. I'm not sure I dig that look but it's supposed to be one of the reasons the lens renders so nicely. Doubt it would be an issue if it does become offensive to me as I could avoid that aperture in those situations.

Gosh I will miss neopan 400 when it finally is kaput.
Thanks again.