Wow, I thought I'd get like three replies all saying "no." I personally don't buy new cameras, but my students and friends are constantly asking. One thing, the Vivitar is dreadful. I try to steer my students away from them. And I haven't seen the Cosina for sale anywhere. I was amazed to see the Kenko. Thanks for that. As usual the APUG Gang has really come through. Also, after first posting this thread, I walked out of my apartment and a guy on my block was having a stoop sale. He had a fully working very clean Pentax K-1000 for sale for $25.00, with a camera bag and lens cap. Bought it. I'm accumulating 35mm film cameras for my students.