Quote Originally Posted by Nick Zentena
I agree but if your buying used equipment from anybody then don't be suprised when it has problems. Will a brand new Bronica/Pentax/Mamiya/etc be better then a brand new Kiev? Sure likely 100% of the time. Will a used one be better then an Arax Kiev? I wouldn't depend on it.
This is a valid comment. However given the quality of manufacture of the likes of Hasselblad, Pentax, Bronica etc if one of these is used carefully and properly maintained it would still, on balance, be a safer bet than a Kiev or its derivatives. The trick, of course, is in the buying.

That said, there is no reason to suggest that a well made Hartblei, Arax or 88cm will not give many years of good service. Its just that the "big boys" seem to manage this consistently.