The problem I had with the Shoot-in is that too many were in there for ego trips.
(for those who don't know, it's a Usenet-based digital photo contest but with a permanent "owner", hosted on pbase)
In the MSA folks just enjoy everyone's film-based photos, with no one "owning" the place. I like that. And I like the extremelly well executed b&w images here, only wish I could make them as good. But I'm learning. And that is the whole purpose of the thing!