I had a Kiev 60 once - a terrible camera, but I loved the fact it was so very heavy and I really miss the uniquely Ukraine tank factory like smell of the grease. I'm tempted to get another from one of these companies that rebuild them to make them more reliable. I kid myself it is because a rebuilt Kiev might be more reliable than an old second hand Pentacon 6 - but deep down I know it is the recycled Soviet tank like qualities that appeal