Then you are reflecting on Yannathan Falls, not AB Falls. Not sure Peter Sanderson was on that one, but I have a record of him being at AB Falls. Tom was there at Yannathan with Boots (who recorded a very favourable image in 6x9 or 12 on a home-spun pinhole), you were there hissing about the rain. I was there trying to keep my balance as you wrangled your camera. So there. My memory is the better of the two. Now what day is the next meeting, or whatever the OP subject was?