Andrew, excellent. Thanks for the link.

I also went and looked at the Adox website and they do now make CMS 20 in 4x5. That would really be a good choice for what I'm doing. I don't know where to order it in the US, but maybe Freestyle will start to carry it now that the CHS Art film is no longer available.

http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX%20Fi...CMS_Films.html

Thanks for the great ideas. I'm new to APUG and I have to say I'm very very impressed.