From what I've read here and there it was my understanding that the photographic film industry had reached some stabilization and that there was somewhat of a turn around in interest by the public with some increases in demand. Wasn't that in the Photokina report I read here recently? If so, either Kodak can't monopolize on the trending or the third quarter earnings are as good as it gets. Still, they're definitely not Ilford who seems to want to interact with those shooting film as well as bring out new product in the form of a pinhole camera. So I guess Ilford knows how to market and Kodak has their head in a dark place. Was Kodak at Photokina btw? The funny thing is, Kodak could have bought a silver mine with all the money they had at one time.