The Super Angulon at KEH is a f5.6 and after looking more thoroughly at their prices and your comments I'm going to tell my local dealer I'm not in the market for his lens. I'd really like that 65mm f8 you mentioned but can't find one anywhere. I'm looking on eBay, KEH, and several photo site's trade boards (I don't have access to the LF forum's trade board as I just joined).
I'm trying to decide now between a 90 f6.8 90 f8 or 65 f8 or spend more and get what I really want 65 f5.6. I'm leaning towards the 65 f5.6.