I think part of this discussion relates to the f64 camp vs Pictorialists and soft focusers.
Adams liked his strong blacks, sharp with detail.
Pictorialists and soft focusers aren't married to sharp with detail across the whole print.
In many cases we Pictorialists and soft focusers simply aren't even trying to convey detail where the f64 camp does. In fact when shooting the same scene we even obliterate the detail purposefully with selective focus or movements to emphasize the subject.
When the shadows are just fuzzy tones any way, they have a different roll than if they were shot sharp.