Look, who am I, but I do think, markbarendt, that the 'artistic expression of ideas', was, indeed, a valid component of the f64 group. They were not insensitive machines. I think that most will agree with this. Yes, Michael R 1974, even 'realist' is too limiting. Ansel was more complex and he blended the two.
I think (maybe naively) that the f64 group was primarily against 'softness' used solely for the sake of it and that they wanted to come to the rescue with their strong defence of resolution. And within that platform, they did not remove 'artistic results' and 'creativity' from their mantra. That is what made me (hastily, yes) think of Ansel in (also) creative terms.
So although, technically, I was dead wrong to call Ansel a pictorialist, there really ARE elements (subjectively, perhaps) of pictorialism in his work. Perhaps, most make the bifurcation too extreme, Maybe there should be, more correctly, a continuum needed to properly define these differences. - David Lyga
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